Head of Growth (Anthropic): “Claude is growing itself at this point” | Amol Avasare
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- lennysnewsletter.com
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- Lenny Rachitsky
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Context
Anthropic is experimenting with using Claude across the cycle of small product-growth tests. In an interview, growth lead Amol Avasare describes an internal effort called CASH that identifies opportunities, builds changes, checks quality, and analyzes results after release. Its early work centered on wording changes and minor interface adjustments, with humans approving the work. Evaluating each stage separately lets the team distinguish weak ideas from poor execution or analysis. Avasare presents this as an early initiative; larger projects still require coordination among people.
“linear charts are just not cool. Everything is log linear. Just show me it log linear scale.”
Amol Avasare
“Historically, we were very much the smallest, least well-funded player in this space. We didn't have the free cash flow or the distribution of a meta or Google. We didn't have the first mover advantage of an open AI.”
Amol Avasare
“you need to understand that 50, 60, 70% of how you operate in the past just throw it out the door.”
Amol Avasare
“we are very comfortable for going metric impact in order to prioritize safety in order to protect our brand in order to hold a high quality bar and to maintain a great user experience.”
Amol Avasare
“the talent density is like, I feel like I'm playing for like real Madrid at times”
Amol Avasare
- 00:00Introduction to Amol and Anthropic's growth
- 03:15Cold emailing Mike Krieger to get the job
- 08:28Leading growth at the fastest-growing company ever
- 10:46What the growth team actually does
- 12:16The concept of 'success disasters'
- 13:55Why activation is the biggest challenge in AI products
- 18:05Improving Mercury's onboarding experience
- 20:57Adding the right kind of friction
- 25:10Anthropic's org structure
- 27:06Big bets over micro-optimizations
- 33:34Automating growth experiments with Claude (CASH)
- 38:20AI identifying what experiments to run
- 41:07The future of PM, engineering, and design roles
- 47:19Why you might need more PMs as engineers get productive
- 51:13Using AI to prototype and skip PRDs
- 58:10Morning routine: AI analyzes 20-25 charts
- 1:03:31Coaching from an AI version of your manager
- 1:06:27How coding and B2B focus drove success
- 1:12:10Balancing growth with AI safety
- 1:18:09Advice for thriving in an AI-first future
- 1:22:53Anthropic's culture and notebook channels
- 1:35:12Failure corner: Shutting down his startup
- 1:38:25The traumatic brain injury that changed everything
- 1:46:49Lightning round
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